Codex Gamicus talk:Puzzle Challenge/Puzzle Four

Decoded but still lost
I successfully decoded the message but it leads me nowhere...anyone solve it yet and have a hint?--Oracle104 04:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Same here - I've decoded the entire thing (I think - it certainly seems to fit, though the encryption method doesn't make sense), and the only thing I can think of is to decrypt the encryption. And I definitely have no idea how the solution can be found on the appropriate wiki.KrytenKoro 05:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've decoded the message, I think, and if I'm right then the riddle is extremely well hidden - it doesn't seem possible to reincrypt the decoding key, and the only possible "riddle" I can think of in the message itself leads nowhere. Just to check if I'm decoding it correctly - should a, i, o, r, and w have multiple letters that they decode as?KrytenKoro 06:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, some letters will decode to more than one more than one letter. In regards to the question that you asked on IRC, you are correct about the number of letters in the article name that you will get, but the solution should also reveal a wiki name as well. --KyleH (talk) 07:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

From IRC chat, for fairness:
 *  Yeah, I replied on my talk page and on the puzzle talk page ... the answer is affirmative, but you should have also gotten a wiki name in there too
 *  okay, thanks. I may have gotten the wrong 11 letters, then, because I can't make hide nor hair of it
 *  or how it's related to the wiki it was on
 *  The wiki is not key to decrypting the message ... you will need it at the end though
 *  yeah, that's where I'm having trouble
 *  I will tell you that the initial decrypted message hints at how to solve the last step of the puzzle though :)
 * Oh....oh that's incredibly devious. I finally got it, and that's just...evil.KrytenKoro 19:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hint - If you think literally, it will show you how what to decode.KrytenKoro 23:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you give a better hint? I've decoded and tryed a bunch of possible solutions and nothing seems to work... this one is pretty tough, that and i am bad at riddles. MithosRiot 06:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've also decoded this one, but have no idea how to get to the last puzzle. Celton 12:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ok, so just a quick tip to anyone working on this. You need to completely finish decrypting the puzzle before you have to search for anything on the wiki.  Oh, and this won't work if you have a DVORAK keyboard. ;)  --KyleH (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought it was going to be done that way, but I was just decrypting it wrong. That is evil MithosRiot 19:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've fully decrypted it, read the text, and analyzed the leftover letters. The actual text still means absolutely nothing to me, and staring at my (non-DVORAK) keyboard has not helped in any way. Any other hints?
 * It sounds like you're really close. How about this for a hint: the fully decoded message is exactly 26 letters long. --KyleH (talk) 18:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Haven't decoded, and also really lost
So ive been doing this for fun, and got to this stage with only a little stuggle, but im stuck here. so without giving it away, could anyone drop a hint on the initial decoding?
 * Use the buttons and text at the top of the image as a starting point. Most internet users have seen at least one of these before somewhere. Pyrephoenix 04:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we give him a hint as to which website's GUI the picture is a mock-up of? I mean, if he's just happened to have never gone to this (admittedly popular) web app, it might be hard to discern. 10:53, 18 June 2008 (PST)
 * I don't know of any reason not to, but then I'm just a random passerby--might want to ask KyleH. That said, I didn't even realize which particular app the SS was from until I logged in this morning, so my comment was more regarding the overall form than any specific program since it's been around in various forms since roughly 1965.
 * Still getting used to wikis. Above comment is from me. Pyrephoenix 11:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont know which APP it is, can anyone please tell me because im pretty sure ive never used such a thing, kind of looks like an email type thing but mine doesnt match it at all. Zogish 7:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure it's Gmail. SaviourSeph 11:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if it is or isn't gmail - I'm having some issues. It seems to not be a straight replacement code, as some letters are used in different words as different letters.  Any hints on the kind of code it is?Coolcat600 08:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As KyleH explained earlier on this page--though in "Have Decoded" section--some letters will decode to more than one more than one letter. (By my count, three letters have four possibilities each, each of them correct in different parts of the message.) However, you're going to have to logic some of them out based on the structure of the encoded words. Skreidle 04:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Puzzle Updated
Just a FYI,

There was a misspelling in the puzzle. The sentence that started with "Iaf tok'f" should have been spelled "Iaf tmk'f". Sorry about that. The image has been updated. It doesn't change the puzzle in any significant way--you'd probably only notice it if you had already solved it for the most part. :)

--KyleH (talk) 18:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Solution 4
I've been told by the people that completed Puzzle Four that it was simply evil. Puzzle Four used a many-to-one cryptogram. For any given letter in the encrypted message, there could be several different representations in the decrypted message; however, each letter in the decrypted message only corresponded to a single letter in the encrypted message. The application was GMail, so the direct translation of some of the interface features should have been obvious (even without familiarity with GMail, it should be recognizable as an email). Fully decoded, the message would come out as follows: On the left, you'll find the key to decoding the message. But, as the message says, decoding it was just the first part of the puzzle. The message hints at the solution by saying that it is "right at your fingertips". The key phrase is obtained by using that cipher to encode the keys of the keyboard. The cipher in reverse is on the right (for ease of use when encoding). When you encode the keys of the keyboard, you get: You would then find that the name of the Dwarf's Army in Warhammer Online is the Oathbearers, then head to http://www.wowwiki.com/Oathbearers.