Talk:Entei

You need to clarify about the legendaries Entei, Suicune and Raikou being dogs. In the reviews translation for the Pokemon 3 movie, from Japanese, Entei was addressed as a lion-like creature. I don't think I ever saw a dog with long fangs like Entei and Raikou. Suicune though is more like a dog. But the reviews on these pages about Entei, they couldn't all be lying.

I don't want to be a pain but I want to see proof from the Pokemon Company itself whether the legendaries Entei, Suicune and Raikou are all dogs. Since there is a lot of noise being made about this all over the web, I believe someone has to come up with the answer, with proof.

Now if you believe this is a matter of public opinion, or internet polls, kindly say so in this page or the general legendary dogs page!

I just want to remind you that references are needed for definite allegations on what is what, or who is who.

This is my research by popular internet Pokemon 3 movie reviews:

1. Says: "A lion-like "legendary" Pokemon called Entei is created from her fantasies to protect her, and things generally get out of hand because Molly is 5 and isn't all that concerned with what her imagination is doing to the rest of the world." 

2. Says: "This time, the Pokemon are Entei, a lion-like creature, and the Unown, small, letter-like eyes. A scientist researching these Pokemon goes missing, leaving his young daughter Molly alone." 

3. Says: "The plot quickly devolves into a sense-numbing succession of showdowns between such mutant creatures as the lion-ish Entei and the dragon-ian Charizard. It's enjoyable only if you're under the age of 7 -- or the influence of psychedelic drugs." 

4. Says: "Hale either reappears as a new lion-esque Pokemon called Entei, or else he doesn't; the movie is not clear on this point. At any rate, Entei appears (and either is or isn't the reincarnation of Hale) and visits Hale's now-orphaned daughter, Molly, whose imagination combines with the Unown to turn her house into a crystal fortress, which draws the attention of the news media and a bunch of Pokemon-collecting kids.

Additional comments from non-review sources:


 * All Experts Says: "Raikou does look like a sabertooth to me, Entei does indeed look like some sort of mythical lion, and Suicune looks more like an artic wolf to me."


 * Absolute Anime Says: "Some think the three legendary beasts are dogs, but it's much more likely they're from the feline family seeing as how Entei looks like a lion and Raikou looks like a tiger."

--Molokaicreeper 11:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The Pokemon.com Pokédex entry says "It is said that when it roars, a volcano erupts somewhere around the globe" (emphasis mine) which seems to corroborate the notion that Entei is more like a lion than a dog of some kind. Bulbapedia also believes that Raikou is like a tiger and Suicune is like a leopard but gives no supporting evidence.  At any rate, it seems that Entei's lion-like nature is suitably established. - Adan Aileron (talk) 20:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Dogs or Cats...
I appreciate your reply. I started to research this because I finally found that a lot of people are convinced in America, that they are legendary "dogs".

Not sure who came up with this, but stuff like this needed to be clarified. I see a lot of forums with heavy discussions about the subject with people who will not accept their "feline" appearance.

This is the actual Japanese article for Raikou, which says he is tiger-like.

There is also some background history about lion legends that come from China in Wikipedia Chinese Guardian Lions. Again, I am not sure why they came up with dogs.

I will try to come up with a small thesis about the subject soon. I have too many references that points to them as felines. I believe that the rumor of them being dogs may have been started by some English game guides that at the time of the original gold and silver game came out, called them dogs. --Molokaicreeper 03:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The Japanese Wikipedia article seems to have the same problem as the Bulbapedia article (lack of official sources), though that might not be as big an issue in this case. I also note that the English Wikipedia chose to sidestep the issue altogether, referring to them only as legendary beasts. Talk page comments seem to indicate that at one point, they had been classified both as dogs and cats which was resolved by deleting both category tags.
 * Some official confirmation would be quite welcome, but please do continue to share whatever you can find. I will also be looking into this. - Adan Aileron (talk) 19:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)