Codex Gamicus talk:Community portal/Archive 1

We need a reworking of the Community Portal.--AlphaTwo 10:39, 20 February 2006 (CST)

Could we just have the Community Portal link to the forums? -- Oddity 15:04, 20 February 2006 (CST)


 * Link yes, but it's seems awkward not to have something posted here about what's going on. It's kinda like a morph between the about page and the latest news page.

Some sections that are possible in here: --AlphaTwo 16:16, 20 February 2006 (CST)
 * Sections (Mapping how far our content covers)
 * Previously Featured Articles
 * Previous Collabrations
 * Things to do
 * Help

Wikipedia (on the weekends) has a "Featured Image." How about a featured screenshot for us?--Evisruc 21:19, 22 February 2006 (CST)

Wow, I just want to say good work Alpha! I'm actually going to be clicking on the Communtiy Portal now for useful info. And it also means the navigation links on the left of the screen are now all pretty useful.--Demandred82 17:40, 24 February 2006 (CST)

Official Praise Section
Oh my god this is beautiful--Evisruc 23:35, 2 March 2006 (CST)

"Things to Do" Section
I dont think "Disambiguation" pages should be there, since there's nothing to "work on" in those sections.
 * Aright, that should be gone in the next run.--AlphaTwo 09:54, 5 March 2006 (CST)

Forums link dead
Can we get the correct link for the forums?

I created Requested Features in the meantime, since I couldn't figure out any other way to request a feature.

Organizational question

 * Who owns the hardware that Egamina runs on?
 * If hardware is provided by Egamina via a contract (as opposed to Egamina owning it), is the contract signed by an organizaton representing Egamina, or is the contract signed in the name of an individual, who uses the resources to host Egamina?

Basically, I'm interested in knowing how resistent is Egamina against "unfortunate accidents" (for example, if Jimmy Whales dies in a plane crash, Wikipedia itself will be able to go on, because the site is owned by a foundation. One would need to arrange "unfortnate accidents" against the entire foundation to actually bring down Wikipedia; On the other hand, it only takes 1~3 accidents to completely cripple http://www.guildwiki.org despite its great success, since the site is privately owned). -Afker 17:45, 20 May 2007 (PDT)


 * Sign up on the forums this is good to discuss with Achernar who is in charge of Egamia. I requested more admins and Bureaucrats to attempt to block this problem but you present it better than I did! We need more people on ownership access incase of these problems --Cs california 20:43, 20 May 2007 (PDT)


 * Sysops and bearucrats won't help with this problem at all. Using GamerWiki as an example, if the owner dies (or just mysteriously disappears), and the contract with whoever hosts the hardware runs out (assuming it's contracted), it doesn't matter if there are 1000 sysops and 500 bearucrats to moderate the place. The contents there will simply vanish off the face of cyberspace. On the other hand, consider GameInfo.wiki, it can be inactive, have no sysops and bearucrats active for months, the GameInfo's founder can get hit by a train, but the content contributed there will remain safe, since Wiki Inc. will take care of it even in the absense of anyone actually caring about that wiki. I don't need to worry about the demise of the single founder of GameInfo, I only need to worry about the demise of a company (and if it's in financial trouble, there'll probably be enough time for warning to move content elsewhere, so "demise of company" probably has to involve a retreat of everyone in the company plus a fatal accident). Sysops and Bearucrats can only help with the management of the GDFL content, not the website hosting service contract. And, um... why is there a separate forum? So much trouble to register an account again for the forums... )-: -Afker 21:07, 20 May 2007 (PDT)
 * I dunno but you bring up a good point for ownership. But I figure the site expires in march 2008 on http://whois.domaintools.com/egamia.com There is an email for the owner if it helps answer your questions. But I am as clueless as you are. )-: Hope this helps --Cs california 21:31, 20 May 2007 (PDT)
 * That's just the domain name though right? Instead of the actual hosting. So say if the bills for hosting come monthly, and if it's a private contract with an individual, and suddenly bills aren't being paid for 3 months (and no one can get a hold of the person who signed the contracts), the site might just disappear without warning even earlier. -Afker 21:37, 20 May 2007 (PDT)
 * I have no idea how it is being paid. But I would like it if we can get hold of Achernar and ask. He is the main guy for these questions. I doubt the site will disappear because it has been running for a while and we changed domains once but it is a risk we should consider --Cs california 21:45, 20 May 2007 (PDT)

Interwiki links
Is it possible to interwiki-link to wikipedia? When I want to explain waht bakumatsu is, I don't want to type up my own article on the history of Japan, or go to the trouble of inputing in the full URL on the wikipedia article. Neither bakumatsu nor wp:bakumatsu work, that is kinda irritating. -Afker 20:26, 6 June 2007 (PDT)
 * Bump. -Afker 22:01, 26 June 2007 (PDT)`
 * I don't know but it would be useful. --Cs california 03:24, 27 June 2007 (PDT)

Logo
Sorry, not sure where you're used to bringing these things up, so I brought it up in two locations. Anyway, any suggestions for a new logo and favicon? -- 21:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Navigation
There seems to be no way of easily finding content available to people unfamiliar with wikis here. I have articles on games whose names are a long romanizations of Japanese, and I want it obvious for them as to how to navigate to those articles, instead of having to type something in the search box. -Afker 03:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Rename Category:Game List
Category:Game List doesn't seem to follow naming conventions used anywhere else on the site, if for no other reason than "list" should probably be pluralized. My suggestion, based on existing categories, is to move it to Category:Video game lists, or better yet Category:Video games by platform.

I'm basing the name ideas off of the category tree.

If we do end up moving it I will volunteer to recategorize all the pages within it. Tubedogg99 17:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed! move the page of game list --Cs california 23:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Bump...anyone else have any thoughts or comments? Tubedogg99 09:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Eroge project
Back in March, I tried keeping track of new eroges released in Japan each week on Gaming.wiki, creating a non-trivial stub article for each game, but quickly burned out by the middle of second week.

I am still interested in keeping track of the new games, but I'm gonna take a different approach: I'm just going to come up with an English name for each game, provide the game maker, and a link of some sort, and they'll all be centralized one page (instead of creating individual articles). People with more energy to burn are encouraged to create the individual articles, but making individual articles for every game is an unsustainable activity for me.

On a typical week, between 10~30 new games come out (and usually they all come out on Friday). My current plan is to dump the list of name/company/link on a category page in the format: Category:YYYY/MM/DD games. And as articles gets created for the games, they get removed from the manual listing (so the category "article" only contains the ones that don't have articles). I'll begin with 2008/01/05 (which would be a sub-category of the 2008 January games).

Comments/suggestions? -Afker 06:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Categorization of hardware pages
It seems like there is not really any consistency on how hardware pages (such as Sony PlayStation 2 or Microsoft Xbox) are categorized.

There is a master category (located at Video games > Computer and video game platforms), which contains subcategories Consoles and Handheld consoles. Inside consoles, there are individual pages for e.g. Sony PlayStation 2, but that page is also categorized in PlayStation 2 which itself is a subcategory of Consoles.

My suggestions?
 * Put all individual system pages into their own categories. Sony PlayStation 2 gets categorized under Category:PlayStation 2. (It could keep other categories like Sixth-generation console but get rid of Consoles since that is redundant at that point.)
 * Categorize all system categories under either Consoles or Handheld consoles (or maybe a third category, Personal computers, for things like Apple II).
 * Also make a decision whether system categories should contain their manufacturer as well. (e.g. Category:PlayStation 2 or Category:Sony PlayStation 2?) For the most part it seems that individual pages contain the manufacturer, my vote would be to include the manufacturer in the category name as well.

Thoughts? Tubedogg99 09:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Here is my suggestions

Thats about it for now! Keep up the good work!--Cs california 11:32, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Try to get a bot (I don't know how but I will ask around) for auto tagging
 * 2) Should we separate games in PC section to win 95/98, Windows Vista, XP, Mac, ZX spectrum, Apple II, and Commodore 64?
 * 3) Make sure names are not long so I can easily make them when producing a new page. (Unless we have a autobot)
 * 4) Agreed with your categorizing
 * 5) Look for some section for the
 * 6) Things in Category:People needs to be fixed into sub categories
 * Category:Applications Needs to be under something else not videogames.

New logo


I don't know if it's wanted or not but I thought I saw something somewhere about wanting a new logo so I did something real quick in Photoshop. It's at Image:Tubedogg_test.png and you can view it on any Egamia page by loading the page, then copying & pasting this JavaScript into the Location or URL bar and pressing enter. (It simply swaps out the existing logo with the test logo, for that page view only. Once you navigate away it will go away, it's making a change to your local computer only for that page view.)

javascript:(function{var theImg = document.getElementById('wikiLogoLink'); theImg.style.backgroundImage="url(http://images.gamepedia.com/egamia/images//d/df/Tubedogg_test.png)"; });

-Tubedogg9907:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Where was this at? I never saw this since we moved to wiki in November! The can be used logo for the quartz skin. We had the current logo since we started before the wiki merge and wiki states that
 * "Logo and favicon to maintain the integrity of the site. If you want to change or have a different logo from time to time discuss on the forums"
 * We never had a fav icon but decided to keep gameinfo wiki's. I would disagree changing the monobook skin (to keep the sites integrity) But I have no opinions on the quartz logo. Thats what I think--Cs california 09:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * BTW, the current [[Image:Wiki_wide.png]] looks kinda bad under the gaming theme (background). Can some kind of "white shadow" be added to help readability of the dark text against dark background? -Afker 02:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Other Similar Gaming Communities

 * GamerWiki
 * Digg-Gaming
 * NeoGAF
 * Online Games Inn User submited info, with editorial review, about multiplayer games
 * Evil Avatar
 * PlayStation 3 (PS3) Russian Fan Club
 * Joystiq
 * Video Game Guides Wiki

Bugs
For bug reporting, use Report_a_Bug.

Feature Suggestions
If you have a feature to suggest or a change to request, please post it on Gaming.wiki:Feature suggestions instead.

Deletion
I've created Deletion to provide a way for users to mark pages for administrator review.

Simply insert  and it will show up in Category:Requests for deletion automatically. Garrett 08:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Reviews
I've made Reviews a category of articles, instead of just comments under the previous system. This allows reviews to be edited and individually rated. I can't figure out how to have the article to automatically generate the "by (Auther)" line though. The way the Opinion articles do it is inaccessable to me. So review writers will have to remember to add that themselves, unless some staff with access to the mystery scripts adds that feature. -Afker 10:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Game information vs Opinions etc, share namespace or to segregate?
Should game information pages (objective data) occupy the same namespace as user-writte opinions and reviews etc (subjective essays)? I feel the two types of articles are sufficiently distinct in nature, that segregating them via namespaces might be a good idea. What do other people think? -Afker 01:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd buy that for a dollar. (I agree) As a bonus, it would make it slightly easier to find the factual content. (currently things feel like a bit of a jumble overall) -Tyroney

Article categories
According to the default Main Page listing, the "popular opinions" will actually list any published articles in the categories of News, Opinions, Projects, Announcements, Open Thread, Showdowns, Questions, and Gossip. On the other hand, for the "new opinions" I can only confirm that unpublished Opinions and Questions are listed, I'm not sure if other types are. Further more, in individual platform pages, the "popular opinions" only deal with published opinions originally (I've changed the template to also cover Announcements and News, but at least PC doesn't use that template), and the "new opinions" only cover unpublished opinions.

I think we should at least modify the rest of the site to recognize articles of type Announcements and News (including making creation forms for them). I'm less certain about the other categories. Thoughts? -Afker 15:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. My only concern is it being clear to the poster what the difference is between "news" and an "opinion". Garrett 02:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sega Mega drive/Genesis games categories
There seems to exist two categories that are almost same. I think there should be only one of them. 81.17.198.126 07:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)