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The game is a pvp game, meaning you...')

"Minutiae"
According to Template:Move_to_gaming_wiki articles on games should not include details or strategy. I think we need to simplify some of the details in this article to make it more factual, and create a separate wiki for strategy and details on MonstersGame. -Wizzard2k 05:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Controversy Section
We need a good way to display the controversy around new player protection in MG. Its an important topic, but needs to be approached delicately, to avoid recreating the heated discussions it always brings anytime anyone reads it. It currently reads as this: Wizzard2k 06:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a reminder - there's no possible way for that section to be deleted now, because at this point, several registered users of the game's message board have now seen it for themselves. Deletion at this stage would make what's written there seem correct, and that the developers want to make it look like this game is without fault or flaw.

CorinthMaxwell 22:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Controversy
Despite the lavish praise given to this game by its 'best' players, the game is quick to alienate newer players, due to the developers' strict policies that state that players as high in level as 30 & up are allowed to attack players as far down as Level 1. The game's moderation and administration staff are all quick to reply to users with the same message: "repeated attacks are not a form of harassment". It would seem, however, that the thousands of players whom they receive complaints from about it beg to differ.

Most players have to deal with repetetive & petty arguments from other users on the game's message board as to why the so-called "n00b protection" is such a supposedly bad idea, as every request made on the message board asking for protection from attacks by obscenely higher-level players is denied and locked. This is what started the ever-famous quote, "n00b protection shall never be a part of MonstersGame".

It is rumored that threats of boycott from veteran players of the game are what influenced the decision from the developers to not implement a system of protection for lower-level players, whereas in the games TechWarrior and KnightFight, such systems of protection exist, and the higher-level players do not care regardless.

The following is my recommendation for a new Controversy Section. I didn't think the rumor part belonged in the wiki article, unless someone can come up with a source for it (see: WP:ATT) -Wizzard2k 02:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

New Player Protection
One of the most popular complaints from new players is that they are frequently attacked by other players of a much higher level. This is due to the design that any player can attack a player of the opposing race on their server. Other games by Red Moon Studios, TechWarrior and KnightFight, provide a form of new player protection, by imposing experience loss for attacking weaker players. "If you attack very weak opponents (5 or more levels lower than your current level) and win the battle, you will lose experience points as a penalty, because attacks of this nature are dishonorable!" Many players also complain about repeatedly being attacked by the same player or clan, even though the game rules specifically state "Repeat attacks are NOT a form of harassment!" MonstersGame was meant to be a War between Vampires and Werewolves, so there is no accounting for honorable vs. dishonorable attacks. Often out of frustration, players often go to the game's forum suggesting some sort of penalty for attacking weaker players. The idea is summarily rejected, because "Noob protection won't be a part of MonstersGame".

Bots, Scripts and Programs
The use of trainers to cheat in any game is always a source of debate. According to the rules of MonstersGame: "The use of scripts, bots and similar programmes to automate actions in the game will result in deletion of your account. Scripts/Bots include programmes that carry out actions of any kind in the game automatically or through manual control by the user. Such actions include reading data directly from the game-server or the pages making up the game. This includes the use of link exchanges and all internet services that make possible automatic clicking of personal links!" This has not stopped numerous players from creating utilities to play parts of the game for them. Any time a player is found cheating, their accounts are deleted by the game's administrators, often with much protest.

Premium Discussion
There is a debate as to how the premium issue should be worded. It clearly fits the definition of a pay-for-premium service, but its called "donating." There are benefits of playing as a premium user, but they've been designed to mainly provide better time management (actions in game take less time, no ads load). Some other fringe benefits include being able to change your player name, upload an avatar for your player, and being able to see your place in the highscores list. Premium service also needs to be mentioned in a factual manner, so as not to sound like an advertisement. Wizzard2k 21:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)